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Author:  Acoma [ Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:14 am ]
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Ooooh - that's one I hadn't even considered. Well done for spotting! :)

Author:  Starkad [ Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:01 am ]
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A detail almost hidden in the background... Well done indeed! :D

Author:  WodenKrait [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:35 am ]
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It better not be the Sorcerer on page 118 using his right hand to cast Deathlight because that's weak.

Cheers,

-Kyle

Author:  Acoma [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:05 pm ]
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That's what it is ... :|

Author:  Starkad [ Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:44 am ]
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Interesting, because the illustration on Page 36 shows a spellcaster also using their right hand. As this is in the section that also includes Mystics and Elementalists, perhaps he is not a sorcerer (and, by implication, only sorcerers are left handed)?
Except that he carries a scroll in his belt; and I thought that only sorcerers could read scrolls?*

* It might not be a magic scroll, of course...

Author:  WodenKrait [ Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:42 am ]
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Starkad wrote:
perhaps he is not a sorcerer


I think he's definitely meant to be the example Sorcerer (who we first see on page 31 along with the example Mystic). The reason I think this is a bit lamo is that nowhere does it say that just because Sorcerers are left-handed, they can only cast their spells with their left hand. To put it another way, if we saw a picture of a knight who we happened to know was right-handed wielding his sword with his left hand, we wouldn't conclude this was an insoluble paradox would we? Maybe he had a blister.

Hmm. Maybe I've been drinking too much coffee lately. I got a bit worked up there... :?

Cheers,

-Kyle

Author:  wimlach [ Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:33 pm ]
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WodenKrait wrote:
Starkad wrote:
perhaps he is not a sorcerer


I think he's definitely meant to be the example Sorcerer (who we first see on page 31 along with the example Mystic). The reason I think this is a bit lamo is that nowhere does it say that just because Sorcerers are left-handed, they can only cast their spells with their left hand. To put it another way, if we saw a picture of a knight who we happened to know was right-handed wielding his sword with his left hand, we wouldn't conclude this was an insoluble paradox would we? Maybe he had a blister.

Hmm. Maybe I've been drinking too much coffee lately. I got a bit worked up there... :?

Cheers,

-Kyle


Yeah, it's not really a contradiction - being left handed says nothing about which hand a spell effect can originate. However, it could be inferred - if you are right handed and you try to throw something with your left hand, your aim and power is typically severely reduced. The same may apply to Sorcerers, so aiming a dragonbreath with the right hand would incur poor accuracy (and perhaps reduction in speed, if a game penalty needed to be applied). I vaguely recall a similar penalty for combat mentioned if a character loses their favoured hand.

Author:  Starkad [ Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:13 pm ]
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I vaguely recall a similar penalty for combat mentioned if a character loses their favoured hand.

Those rules can be found in DW Book 4, page 187. Having said that the character’s hand was crushed in a trap (and cannot be used again until a Miracle Cure is cast upon it), the character loses 1 from both ATTACK and DEFENCE until the hand is restored. A sorcerer with a mangled left hand has a 5% chance of miscasting spells.

Incidentally, it's here that I find the only mention of all sorcerers being left handed - unless someone can remember where else this might be mentioned?

Author:  wimlach [ Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:59 pm ]
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Starkad wrote:
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I vaguely recall a similar penalty for combat mentioned if a character loses their favoured hand.

Those rules can be found in DW Book 4, page 187. Having said that the character’s hand was crushed in a trap (and cannot be used again until a Miracle Cure is cast upon it), the character loses 1 from both ATTACK and DEFENCE until the hand is restored. A sorcerer with a mangled left hand has a 5% chance of miscasting spells.

Incidentally, it's here that I find the only mention of all sorcerers being left handed - unless someone can remember where else this might be mentioned?


There is also a mention in book 6, in the entry for 'Helgrims Hand'. Would certainly been useful info to have in book 2 however!

Author:  Starkad [ Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:14 pm ]
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There is also a mention in book 6, in the entry for 'Helgrims Hand'.

So there is (page 66). Well spotted. :D

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Would certainly been useful info to have in book 2 however!

I wonder whether it's something that got thought up later? After all, the first mention of this doesn't appear until Book 4...

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